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The Control Room Floor / Significant change to Taxi procedures coming effective 30 Jun 2010
« on: April 24, 2010, 02:03:24 AM »Quote from: Harold Rutila
I responded to a parallel discussion in the VATSIM Forums in kind of a long post, but in a nutshell here's what I think:
With regard to not implementing it on VATSIM, we're going to put ourselves through much more trouble than we need to if we don't implement it. The first couple of months are going to be difficult, yes, (just as I'm sure the number of "incursions" under the new standard will very likely go up in the real world) but in the end people are going to start understanding this procedure.
From another perspective, if ARTCCs are given the choice as to whether or not they want to implement it, I would very sharply disagree with that decision. There are already discrepancies between the way ARTCCs operate, but this one is too big to be left to the ARTCCs to decide individually. VATUSA needs a division-wide standard to absolutely minimize confusion. There are other questions about this potential decision, too. How will one S1's training vary in one ARTCC compared to an S1 somewhere else? What will VATUSA say in the TRC, a centralized training document?
VATUSA should design a policy that allows for the simulation of the runway crossing limitations in all taxi clearances to a reasonable degree. I don't believe DEP/APP nor CTR should be required to do this, but perhaps GND/TWR should. Movement area ops are hard enough already for the radar positions, but GND/TWR should be able to handle that. I would suggest what Ernesto said -- a "Cross all runways" provision for DEP/APP and CTR controllers. If it's a well-advertised policy, then we'll see a good level of pilot understanding and an even better standardization of technique throughout all of the ARTCCs in VATUSA. It's simply got to be standardized and not left up to ARTCCs.
http://forums.vatsim.net/viewtopic.php?f=1...77&start=15
I honestly don't see this being treated any differently than when we could no longer just say "Taxi to runway 25R". Instead we now had to give a route with every taxi clearance so it turned into "Taxi to runway 25R via Bravo".
Some people still don't use that rule and its officially in the 7110.65 so why would this change get any other kind of special treatment?