From a ZOB standpoint, We (ZOB) can further our training efforts if the the Founders and BoG would just let us run it our way.  For years prior to the GRP release you go and look at ZOB's training records and you will find that we had 10 people on staff and training was being conducted every night.  Now with this new GRP, we have had less active members mainly because we have 3 Class B fields, only 1 of them is considered a "major".  Now VATSIM is trying to tell us that we need to COMPLETELY redo our training outline (Which I did in about a month of late nights).

Essentially back in our hayday, we gave the student an option as to which airport they would like to start their training at.  Naturally, people who lived in the Detroit area would choose KDTW to start their training, same goes for PIT and CLE.  Now we cannot do this.  We have to say "Ok read up on the PIT and CLE SOPs and we'll go over lesson 1 tomorrow" type of deal.  People don't want to train at 2 airports simultaneously.  This is where the Major/Minor cert lacks for us.  We are simultaneously training students on 2 rather large airports in the National Airspace Sysytem (Real World) and VATSIM and the makers of the GRP will not give them to us.  They based the major certification on traffic levels.  You want to talk about Traffic Levels?  I dare you to compare KBUF and KDTW in the past couple days.  No events have taken place at all, just pure people getting on the network.  So why not make KBUF a major?  It has more operations in the past week than KDTW.

Also, rumor has it that they want to take away KDTW from the Major certification list.  You have no idea how livid this makes me.  Here at ZOB we have 3 Class Bravo Airports, I don't know if that means anything to anybody else, but that sure as hell means something to me.  Now they are going to take away our only Major airport.  Look at any other ARTCC that have 3 Class B Airports and tell me is only 1 of them is considered a Major. Something isn't right.

My whole campagin when I was the DATM was to let us (James Hamilton and myself) run ZOB how we want to, and not be bound by these GRP rules.  I have written emails to Staff Members of the network, only to go unanswered (suprise?).  I ended up getting so tired of the politics, and the constant emails we would recive saying "Someone has complained about your training program..."  Only to find that they were completely false and in some cases exaderated to the point where it was false.

So Richard, if you want to talk about this 1:1 training, I will show you the flow chart I made for the Training staff on the steps and lessons required to comply with the GRP and you can see that even you would not want to go throgh what the GRP is making us go through from a training Standpoint.

TK

not to start a thread about adding fields to the list, but could you give some insight for ZOB's request about 4 months ago to add CLE as a major field?  we also haven't heard anything.

In particular, what would differ with the current DSR mode in VRC?

Im not a radar expert, but I'm sure there are a few differences between the VRC DSR mode and if you made a client specifically for DSR.

I personally like the idea.  I mean who doesn't want to be realistic around here?

If he had said something directed at Mike (ie: John Doe fails in comparison to Jane Doe) then it'd be a different circumstance.

So correcting his grammar like he did is not directed at Mike?  just wondering.

Also, Why does this stuff have to happen here?  All Mike is doing is trying to get the word out on an Airline and nothing else.  Who cares if he has a few mispellings or the grammar isn't right? It isn't fair to that person to be "called out" on it.  And if someone was to bring it up, why not send a PM? does it have to be displayed in the sarcastic tone (I thought it was sarcasm)?  Unless it goes deeper than that......

IMO, if you want to strive for as much realism as possible, that's great! Just don't be a prick about it.

Interesting the way you put that

Hello!

On Saturday, January 9th from 2300z-0100z, Andrew Murfin will take the ultamite test in whether he can handle the Center position.  All I ask of you is to be a pilot.  Do anything you deem neccessary.  VFR on top? Diversions? Holds?  You do whatever you feel is neccessary to test him on his skills.

Hope to see you there!

There has been a member confirm that the procedure above does in fact solve the problem. Thought it would be worth mentioning.

yeah it works for me. The picture is fuzzy, obviously. but it is a small price to pay.