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Events / Re: Friday Night Ops: Hawaii!
« on: November 13, 2017, 01:56:05 PM »
Nice Toby. Great information to have before the event.
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Appreciate the response Ira. I am aware of the content that ZNY made with Alex Evins and AJ, but that information is either inaccessible or deprecated. That content was also before "my time" here with ZNY. During the time between then and now, I perceived a lull in the attention given to traffic management, so my interest in it led me to create this. Plus, I want to create this project in a fashion that I synthesized, rather than an extension of what was already created.
Due to the shear nature of the traffic management community, the materials overlap. Nonetheless, all of my content is original. Any resemblance to previously created material is simply coincidence. I have citations for any material used other than that which is easily accessible and publicly distributed content (like most pictures or videos)
I would love to see the material that ZNY had but such material is not readily available without me having to reach out to someone for the resources (which I don't want to do).
And at this point, I have no inclination of including VATUSA management on this (yet). I want to create a workable system first with material that I created. That's my take. Hope this clears some things up.
I have a question, but I really don't want to poke the fire from before, but it's a related tangent here: What happened to the announcement for the actual-Live Atlanta Live event for next year? I can't seem to find it anymore.
PE isn't much more real.
+1
Let's not encourage people to leave VATSIM for PilotEdge if they're looking for realism, please. Plenty of realism around here, too.
This thread has made one thing pretty clear to me: Depending on which way I turn my head, the rules and interpretations of what needs to be adjusted for VATSIM are either one-sided or arbitrary.
I am in, I am working on some AVA guys as well.
Matthew, you make some good points, although I don't know that we can simplify it by saying things were better in the old days. That comparison has become all too common and all too easy to make, and is solely dependent on your own experience.
But to the point regarding controller and pilot behavior, unfortunately, we can't teach good manners and we can only preach common sense. So you do the best you can with what you have.
Agreed that looking at the past with rose-colored glasses isn't always the right answer, but I'm cherry picking for a reason
There are evolutions that I love (for example, voice... pre-voice VATSIM kinda really sucked) and wouldn't ever want to revert lol. Newer controller clients allowing for better presentation an interaction, as well. Actually, it sounds like I generally appreciate technology improvements, but I may have more concerns with some of the cultural changes.
Ira will be here, he's not eligible for leave accrual, yet.