The banner image is so great. Do you guys control in "Ye Olde" English for this event? ;-)

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ZY

It's not really another discussion if your complaint is centered around TS behavior. It's best to just bring it up with the ARTCC's regional director or Don rather than making a generic post where nobody knows who you're specifically complaining about. Unless you visited over 50% of the ARTCCs and seen the same behavior, it's hard for someone like me to look at this and say "We have a widespread problem in VATUSA." It's likely just one or two ARTCCs that need a little work.

You might be right logistically speaking. However, I think the discussion has been fruitful thus far, and could continue to be so provided that people give their ideas about palpable issues related to these behaviors. What's a conversation but a discussion that starts in one direction but ends up going in a direction that focuses on what's (potentially) been on the minds of the majority anyways?

Looking for open minded thought on VATSIM members' priorities on the network, not a quick and dirty solution to 1 or 2 ARTCCs' behaviors, at this point. Maybe discussion about generally caustic/elitist attitude problems existent on the network as of late is in order. That's at least one of the causal background issues that made me want to write this post.

"Measurable effectiveness" of a post, or however someone would like to word it, is not something I wish to discuss here personally. Broad discussion is something these forums are good for in my opinion.

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ZY

Hello members,

Firstly, this is an honest discussion. Please be honest and reasonable in your replies, I welcome all opinions that are posted in good faith.

Recently, being a visitor at several ARTCCs and frequenter of each ARTCC's Teamspeak servers, I've noticed unfriendly "discussion" among members and staff/senior staff regarding other ARTCCs and VATSIM members.

Behavior and conversations I've observed have ranged from friendly and acceptable banter and discussion (of which I have no concern for and contribute to members feeling welcome), to outrightly unacceptable and unfriendly talk about other ARTCCs and VATSIM members. It's disappointing to me that a network where people are supposed to be able to enjoy learning about aviation in an acceptable environment are subject to this kind of degrading speech and atmosphere in Teamspeak channels. When senior staff are cussing out other ARTCC staff members, and talk of "coup de'tats" of other ARTCCs come up I start to get worried about our priorities and principles as VATSIM members, but that's another discussion.

Teamspeak servers are, in my understanding, owned and operated/monitored by the ARTCCs themselves, but I've noticed a VATUSA-wide ordeal here that ARTCCs alone will have difficulty combating, especially because senior staff members are contributing to this fiasco.  

People leave ARTCCs, or VATSIM as a whole because of this kind of behavior; let's keep each other accountable.

Likely some people don't see this the way I do of course. I understand that because ARTCCs manage their Teamspeak servers they can choose to allow anything they see fit to happen on them, but I am not interested in the faux-legalities of the issue, I'm interested in discussing the moral obligation I believe we have as VATSIM members to, "at all times, be courteous and respectful to one another." If you participate in these kind of discussions, please be reminded that you are likely driving people away from VATSIM by making it appear crude and unwelcoming.

Please discuss.

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ZY

P.S. Let's discuss staff positions and the implications associated with your behavior provided you become a staff member as well.

You got me for two seconds. Two seconds of, "whaaa??"

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ZY

Had a good one tonight (Christmas evening):

Pilot: "Albuquerque Center, I gotta go offline, the Scrooge wants me in at 7 in the morning."

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ZY