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Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Scott DeWoody on May 23, 2011, 07:53:31 PM
If any of you were wondering about the iFly 737NG, and how it may compare to the PMDG.  Well, I can't honestly compare it to the PMDG... why??   Because PMDG STILL  has not released theirs.  What I can tell you is that the iFly 737NG for FSX is in my opinion, THE BEST addon aircraft to date for FSX.  You get ALL models of the 737, from the 600 to the 900, including the BBJ's.
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Zach Hutcherson on May 24, 2011, 11:59:37 AM
I know, i've been waiting for the release of the PMDG for months and months and it seems to just drag on.  It looks like it will be an awesome plane but after looking at the ifly the other day it almost doesn't seem worth waiting any longer lol.
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Michael Martin on May 25, 2011, 10:53:16 AM
I use the IFly for FS9 and the only model I've seen that might beat it is the ARIANE, but thats designed for professional sims.
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Graeme Florance on May 26, 2011, 01:37:39 AM
Quote from: Michael Martin
I use the IFly for FS9 and the only model I've seen that might beat it is the ARIANE, but thats designed for professional sims.


Just made my first flight in it...its outstanding
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Michael Martin on May 26, 2011, 02:09:12 PM
Which one?  The idly or the arcane?
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Graeme Florance on May 27, 2011, 01:54:54 AM
Quote from: Michael Martin
Which one?  The idly or the arcane?


IFLY
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Michael Martin on May 27, 2011, 11:28:57 AM
dang autocorrect,  awsome, I love the IFLY
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Brad Rich on June 18, 2011, 08:29:53 AM
Ifly is now my favorite. I have found only a single weakness at that will be fixed.  The HUD is not colimated but over all, this is the best for me.  VNAV handles the most complex STAR's and SID' perfectly.

Brad
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Michael Martin on June 18, 2011, 01:31:32 PM
for iFly users there is a fuel planner out there that is amazingly accurate.  I regularly land with about 8k lbs of fuel.  Enough to get me to my alternate and 45min IFR reserve as per the FAR/AIM
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Graeme Florance on June 18, 2011, 03:29:57 PM
Quote from: Michael Martin
for iFly users there is a fuel planner out there that is amazingly accurate.  I regularly land with about 8k lbs of fuel.  Enough to get me to my alternate and 45min IFR reserve as per the FAR/AIM


And it is ????
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Scott DeWoody on June 18, 2011, 08:23:49 PM
Quote from: Graeme Florance
And it is ????

That's too funny Graeme....  kind of like waiting for the punch line of a joke.
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Michael Martin on June 18, 2011, 09:50:16 PM
http://www.volny.cz/fs2002/B737FPL/B737FPL.htm (http://www.volny.cz/fs2002/B737FPL/B737FPL.htm)
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Kyle Rodgers on June 20, 2011, 03:36:06 PM
That's a universal fuel planner.  As long as the developer used the same (or similar) fuel metrics as the real aircraft would be using (or uses), it's going to be close.  iFly has nothing to do with the planner.  Good resource for those using any 737, though (works well for the old Wilco 737 as well).
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Nicholas Cavacini on June 20, 2011, 08:59:06 PM
I've only had one problem with the iFly and I bet it's plot error. XD

Does anyone know why the FMC won't calculate T/D?? I'm serious, nothing else is wrong, it just doesn't calculate descents. It only calculated the desc maybe once.
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Michael Martin on June 21, 2011, 02:19:49 AM
When you finish the FMC setup does it say complete?  If you miss a step or have an incomplete F/P it will say something else to point you in the right direction.
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Nicholas Cavacini on June 21, 2011, 07:34:03 AM
I Know what your saying but it tells me it is complete and shows no other links. What is weird is I have had no problems with other Boeing aircraft.
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Michael Freudeman on June 21, 2011, 09:36:06 AM
You need to have a point on the airport for it to know what the end of descent is. In your preflight or during cruise, select any arrival runway (not approach) from the DEP/ARR page then cross check the restrictions of the STAR with the chart and it should calculate ToD fine. Just remember to choose the correct runway or approach when you actually know what you'll be using. I also like to slow the descent speed to 280-300 M.78 or so since the VNAV has a really tough time keeping the speed down as it doesn't seem to calculate the descent path too accurately. Can't wait for the NGX
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Nate Coffield on June 21, 2011, 09:36:28 AM
Quote from: Kyle Rodgers
Does anyone know why the FMC won't calculate T/D?? I'm serious, nothing else is wrong, it just doesn't calculate descents. It only calculated the desc maybe once.


I have had this same problem.....the only solution was to make sure you insert an arrival runway before you depart.  Once the arrival runway is in and any discontinuities are removed it will calculate the TD.  However, i have ran into issues if ATC give me a crossing restriction that is not planned.  It seems like the FMC does not know how to handle it and will not descend.  The FMC looks just like it should...but it will not descend.  I then have to switch to V/S mode and put the plane in a dive to get back where I need to be.  Sometimes the PATH descent mode will work but that seems to be hit and miss.

I can't imagine that this would be a programming error on IFLY's side...so I feel i am missing something....but I have never had this problem with the PMDG....you never had to input an arrival runway until you wanted.  And you could set as many crossing restrictions as you needed and the plane would follow.

Maybe someone else has had this same issue and can help out.
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Nicholas Cavacini on June 21, 2011, 01:46:17 PM
Thanks, seems to have worked for now. It is not an error on our part but almost certain it is an error on iFly's part.
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Michael Freudeman on June 22, 2011, 09:57:38 AM
Quote from: Nicholas Cavacini
Thanks, seems to have worked for now. It is not an error on our part but almost certain it is an error on iFly's part.

There is also an issue with the RNAV SID/STAR route selection. On some of them, it doesn't select the route for the runway selected. The ILS frequency auto-tune sometimes doesn't change the course and frequency to the correct ones or changes it away from the auto selected ones. The vertical path doesn't calculate correctly and will descend either too soon or too late causing you to level out for a bit or descend at 5000ft/min. Really bad VC frame rates, especially with the EFIS/Map (Southwest style) option. I've had problems with the auto-brakes not engaging between 80-100 kts RTO. RNP approaches are impossible as VNAV doesn't follow the vertical path, it keeps descending, into buildings and radio towers (try the RNAV Y RWY29 into KEWR). It has on occasion blown through the MCP altitude using FLCH and kept descending, although I believe this to be partly an issue with FSX since it has happened to me once before (however it has happened twice on the iFly so far). You get GPWS warnings on short final while on the GS of the selected runway. That's enough nitpicking for now
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Nicholas Cavacini on June 22, 2011, 11:56:44 AM
XD Yea it works for now but I'm more hopeful for the NGX. PMDG usually irons most the bugs out before release. What I like about the iFly is that it includes 600,700,800,900 and the BBJ. The HUD is also a nice feature in the BBJ though they forgot it in options for the others. I've been on an 800 or 900 and it had a HUD in it.
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Michael Freudeman on June 22, 2011, 12:25:57 PM
Quote from: Nicholas Cavacini
XD Yea it works for now but I'm more hopeful for the NGX. PMDG usually irons most the bugs out before release. What I like about the iFly is that it includes 600,700,800,900 and the BBJ. The HUD is also a nice feature in the BBJ though they forgot it in options for the others. I've been on an 800 or 900 and it had a HUD in it.

It it would be nice if they had included the HUD on the commercial variations but, the iFly HUD is rather useless since it isn't focused in front of the plane,it is plastered on a flat surface in font of your face. This makes the FPV, among other spacial oriented elements of the HUD useless and only good for displaying airspeed and heading information. I find it more of an annoyance than a helpful tool since you can't click through it either.
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Nicholas Cavacini on June 22, 2011, 02:30:59 PM
That is true.
Title: iFly 737NG
Post by: Stephan Faessler on August 03, 2011, 11:33:51 AM
iFly is okay but has some issues, PMDG will be better and on sales tomorrow I hope ;-) cheers