I was telling someone the other day when asked if I was going to fly into or out of the FNO this week and I told them that I don't do FNO's.  For whatever reason...

So, tonight, I decided to give it another chance.. took off from Miami, no problem, no ATC in Miami, no ATC in Jacksonville, Atlanta was on, but announced over freq that he was logging off.  Which he kind of did.  Changed his freq, but remained online with 199.98.  I got several PM's asking if I was in contact with him, to which I replied NO.  So I went to unicomm.

Memphis had 2 center controllers online, but neither one had any info in their personal information explaining which was doing what, so I remained on unicomm and hoped that the one I needed to talk to would send me a "contactme"   which he eventually did, so I contacted him, but at that time I was at my TOD, which I told him, and he didn't respond to me, rather was communication with an aircraft that was at least 50 in my trail.  And then he fumbled through that communication.  So, instead of getting upset online, I just logged off and remembered why I don't do FNO's

For what it's worth.

I'm pretty sure there is a freeware version of any aircraft his question is about, but to answer your question Lloyd, A320, B738, B752, B763, B777, B744.  I know what's 6, but those are the aircraft I fly the most.  If you had to drop one, I'd say the 752

It's up at ZLC

Now.. apply that here, where we may have an Approach/Departure controller on, but no Center. Or better yet, only LAS Tower is on, with no-one at APP/DEP or CTR. With no-one to issue that clearance above FL190, what would the pilot do?
BL.

When the TWR controller issues the "no further ATC", the pilot would then proceed according to the SID then up to their final cruise.

Yes if the chart has labeled Turbojet aircraft only, your Jetsream would qualify to fly that particular arrival or departure as it is a Turboprop.

Hmmm, now I'm confused, in all my years of flying I don't recall ever hearing a "turboprop" being allowed to fly a "turbojet only" SID or STAR.

The way I read it is "turbojet" only.... and "turboprops" are definitely NOT "turbojets".  They are gas turbine engines with a prop coupled to them through a reduction gear box.

BUT..... I may be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time.

... And the reasonable "far-left" viewpoint comes out of the woodwork. /sarcasm

Andrew, I agree with what you are saying, I'm just getting a little sick of the "real world" thing.  I have plenty of experience in the real world on the flying side, and believe me, what most of the VATSIM pilots think of the real world is "out there" to say the least.

And if you refer back to the OP

"I think it is silly not to give a shortcut based on the fact that an adjacent ARTCC is not online. Granted, I don't mean "proceed direct the other side of the country", but a VOR in an adjoining ARTCC's airspace, particularly one that your guys might have on the scope, is not a reach."

That's all I'm trying to say also.

We are looking at it. I got fired too... There have been a total of 608 members affected by whatever this was.

Yeah Bob.. but you getting fired wasn't by the hacker... d'oh

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