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Title: How do you read?
Post by: Stephen O'Hara on May 31, 2013, 09:47:47 AM

It is a phrase that I hear almost as often as "Traffic Traffic Decend decend"   but is it an acceptable phrase for controllers to use?

Normally when I fly I do be Voice receive  and 7 out of every 10 controllers  starts the conversation asking "How do I read"

I googled "How do I read 7110.65" hoping the phrase would show up,  but it probably wasn't my brightest idea

But in all seriousness,  is this just one of those "Vatsimisms"    Would their be a better way to ask pilots?  and where do Controllers get the phrase from???

Title: How do you read?
Post by: Ryan Geckler on May 31, 2013, 09:51:57 AM

I think it's a VATSIMism... sometimes pilots put /R and aren't actually capable of it. It's just to check. If we wanted to get technical, I guess the best way to say it would be "verify that you can receive voice".

Title: How do you read?
Post by: Jeffrey Jaynes on May 31, 2013, 10:52:32 AM

I've heard ATC in real life say... "How to you hear my radio?" I'm not sure if that's in the 7110.65 either, but sometimes the document doesn't cover every possibility.

JJ

Title: How do you read?
Post by: Harold Rutila on May 31, 2013, 11:00:12 AM

"How do you read" when you file /R/ is the result of people filing /R/ and sometimes /V/ when they actually meant to file /T/. /R/ pilots sometimes send a text, to which ATC responds on voice, and then 5 minutes later the same pilot sends another text, usually something like "?????" Sometimes we have to check to make sure you're really able to receive voice as it says in the flight plan remarks.

Title: How do you read?
Post by: Kenneth Bambach on May 31, 2013, 01:45:27 PM

I'll usually ask a /R or /T on first call up with a text question of "Do you rx voice comms".  It always seems to be a month of Sunday's before the pilot will respond back. A large percentage will respond back with something like "I do not have a microphone", which still does not answer the question.....argh!!

Title: How do you read?
Post by: Stephen O'Hara on June 01, 2013, 11:27:37 AM

Interesting,  but does anyone know where the term originated from?

Title: How do you read?
Post by: Don Desfosse on June 01, 2013, 07:42:41 PM

It is standard ICAO terminology.  It has been used by radiotelephone operators (commercial, professional and amateur) for decades.  Gotta put the kids to bed, but a quick look here shows some standard radiotelephony terms:  http://www.wrrl.org/operating/icao_radiotelephony.htm (http://www.wrrl.org/operating/icao_radiotelephony.htm)

Title: How do you read?
Post by: Stephen O'Hara on June 02, 2013, 05:10:48 AM

Quote from: Don Desfosse

It is standard ICAO terminology.  It has been used by radiotelephone operators (commercial, professional and amateur) for decades.  Gotta put the kids to bed, but a quick look here shows some standard radiotelephony terms:  http://www.wrrl.org/operating/icao_radiotelephony.htm (http://www.wrrl.org/operating/icao_radiotelephony.htm)

Thanks Don!

Title: How do you read?
Post by: Bob Carmona on June 03, 2013, 07:50:45 PM

Q: How do I read?
A: Not worth a crap without reading glasses.

Title: How do you read?
Post by: Scott DeWoody on June 04, 2013, 12:40:36 AM

Quote from: Bob Carmona

Q: How do I read?
A: Not worth a crap without reading glasses.

Even with glasses the letters have to be BOLD and at least 48 font for you to be able to read Bob.