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Title: NIGHT in NEWARK [June30,23:59-0400z]
Post by: Jagard Strong on April 23, 2018, 06:14:30 AM
(https://imgur.com/raSyvrh.png)

Visit KEWR Saturday, June 30th for the crazy fiasco! NIGHT in NEWARK returns this summer, and it's not an event to miss! This tiny airspace will turn into nothing but chaos, and we invite you to join in! KEWR will be staffed for all your pilot needs. ZNY encourages all types of flights (IFR/VFR)! Hope to see you there.
Title: Re: NIGHT in NEWARK [June30,23:59-0400z]
Post by: Elai Kindler on April 23, 2018, 07:47:56 AM
Yay! I am so excited for this. Newark is my FAVORITE airport in the world! See ya at Terminal C all :)
Title: Re: NIGHT in NEWARK [June30,23:59-0400z]
Post by: Jagard Strong on June 22, 2018, 05:42:00 AM
Bump
Title: Re: NIGHT in NEWARK [June30,23:59-0400z]
Post by: Aharon Dayan on June 30, 2018, 01:11:57 PM
You might have problem hosting that event tonight as FAA has declared this area restricted only for VIP meaning only for President of USA.

http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_8_3811.html
Title: Re: NIGHT in NEWARK [June30,23:59-0400z]
Post by: Andrew Treulich on June 30, 2018, 03:15:49 PM
Quote from: Aharon Dayan on June 30, 2018, 01:11:57 PM
You might have problem hosting that event tonight as FAA has declared this area restricted only for VIP meaning only for President of USA.

http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_8_3811.html

Not if we don't simulate it!
Title: Re: NIGHT in NEWARK [June30,23:59-0400z]
Post by: Krikor Hajian on June 30, 2018, 03:35:38 PM
Quote from: Aharon Dayan on June 30, 2018, 01:11:57 PM
You might have problem hosting that event tonight as FAA has declared this area restricted only for VIP meaning only for President of USA.

http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_8_3811.html

While the TFR exists, it only prohibits some type of operations. From the TFR;

Except as specified below and/or unless authorized by ATC in consultation with the air traffic security coordinator via the domestic events network (DEN):

A. All aircraft operations within the 10 NMR area(s) listed above, known as the inner core(s), are prohibited except for: Approved law enforcement, military aircraft directly supporting the United States Secret Service (USSS) and the office of the President of the United States, approved air ambulance flights, and regularly scheduled commercial passenger and all-cargo carriers operating under one of the following TSA-Approved standard security programs/procedures: aircraft operator standard security program (AOSSP), full all-cargo aircraft operator standard security program (FACAOSSP), model security program (MSP), twelve five standard security program (TFSSP) all cargo, or all-cargo international security procedure (ACISP) and are arriving into and/or departing from 14 cfr part 139 airports.

So, since the vast majority of operations on the network (and presumably into this event) will be part 121 air or cargo carriers (United, FedEx, etc. etc.), they won't be impacted by this TFR. The New York Special Flight Rules Area, one of the more popular VFR routes in the area, is also excluded from the TFR.

Lastly, as Andrew said, TRF's aren't usually implemented on VATSIM. After all, what are we going to do if you bust it? We can't get the vFAA involved in action against the pilot, and we can't scramble fighters to get the aircraft on the ground. Even if the TFR were simulated, it would only impact GA flying in the area (and obviously this would be a major headache for those pilots!).
Title: Re: NIGHT in NEWARK [June30,23:59-0400z]
Post by: Nick Warren on June 30, 2018, 03:46:06 PM
Any interest in voice hosting up the frequencies for the SFRA?  123.050 and 123.075?
Title: Re: NIGHT in NEWARK [June30,23:59-0400z]
Post by: Aharon Dayan on July 01, 2018, 09:16:56 AM
Thanks for cool explanations.

It is just when I looked at the flightaware website to get realistic waypoints for KEWR, I noticed huge red area circles around NJ next to Newark on flightmap so I clicked on red area to seek explanations and was informed that this area was restricted so I thought it would be best to let all of you know especially Newark and KEWR is only 1 mile from red restricted area.  That is all.

Smiling,

Aharon