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Title: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Krikor Hajian on December 13, 2017, 06:56:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/pMi9WYs.png)

The New York, Boston, and Washington ARTCCs are teaming up to bring you an FNO like no other! We'll be lighting up the Northeastern United States, renowned for it's busy airline commuter and business service, and bringing service to three of the major metropolitan airports of the area: Boston (KBOS), New York-Kennedy (KJFK) and Washington-National (KDCA). We welcome all pilots and aircraft to come and join us for this chance to fly with ATC service in one of the most busy and congested air spaces in the country!

DCA-JFK:
DOCTR3 AGARD DONIL V229 PANZE V44 CAMRN (RNAV)
PALEO V44 DONIL V229 PANZE V44 CAMRN (Non-RNAV)
Both AOB 17,000

DCA-BOS:
SOOKI3 SWANN BROSS J42 RBV J222 JFK ROBUC3  (RNAV Jet)
NATNL7 SWANN BROSS J42 RBV J222 JFK ORW7 (Non-RNAV Jet)
PALEO V44 SIE J121 HTO V308 ORW V16 WOONS (Props, AOA FL180)
PALEO V44 SIE V308 ORW V16 WOONS (Props, 090-170)
PALEO V312 GOLDA V268 ENO V16 JFK V229 HFD V3 WOONS (Props, 070)

BOS-DCA:
SSOXS5 SSOXS BUZRD SEY HTO J174 ZIZZI ATR085 ATR V308 LAFLN DEALE3 (RNAV Jet, AOB FL360)
LOGAN2 SSOXS SEY HTO J174 ZIZZI ATR085 ATR V308 BILIT (Non-RNAV Jet)
SSOXS BUZRD SEY HTO J174 ZIZZI ATR085 ATR V308 OTT (Non-Jet, 180-360)
BURDY V268 HTO V308 BILIT CAPKO (Non-Jet, 080-170)

BOS-JFK:
SSOXS5 SSOXS BUZRD SEY PARCH2 (RNAV Jet, AOB FL220)
SSOXS LUCOS SEY067 SEY PARCH CCC ROBER (Non-RNAV Jet, 110-170)
SSOXS LUCOS SEY067 SEY HTO V46 DPK (Prop, 110-170)
BOSOX V1 V14 ORW V16 CCC V46 DPK (Prop, AOB 100)

JFK-DCA:
RBV J230 COPES J75 MXE CLIPR1 (RNAV)
WAVEY EMJAY J174 ZIZZI ATR V308 BILIT CAPKO (Non-RNAV)
Both FL180-220

JFK-BOS:
MERIT ROBUC3 (RNAV Jet, AOB FL210)
MERIT ORW ORW7 (Non-RNAV Jet, AOB FL210)
MERIT ORW WOONS2 (Props)
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Camden Bruno on January 12, 2018, 10:41:48 PM
One week away! Who's excited?
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Reynolds Price on January 18, 2018, 09:47:00 AM
Is there a pilot brief or preferred routings?
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Rick Rump on January 18, 2018, 10:14:11 AM
Lee:
DCA-JFK: DOCTR3 AGARD DONIL V229 PANZE V44 CAMRN (RNAV)
PALEO V44 DONIL V229 PANZE V44 CAMRN (Non-RNAV)
Both AOB 17,000

JFK-DCA: WAVEY EMJAY J174 ZIZZI ATR LAFLN DEALE3 (RNAV)
WAVEY EMJAY J174 ZIZZI ATR V308 BILIT CAPKO (Non-RNAV)
Both FL180-220

DCA-BOS:
SOOKI3 SWANN BROSS J42 RBV J222 JFK ROBUC3  (RNAV)
NATNL7 SWANN BROSS J42 RBV J222 JFK ORW7 (Non-RNAV)

BOS-DCA:
PATSS5 PATSS NELIE CMK J75 MXE CLIPR1 (RNAV)
SSOXS5 SSOXS BUZRD SEY HTO J174 ZIZZI ATR085 ATR V308 LAFLN DEALE3 (RNAV)
LOGAN2 SSOXS SEY HTO J174 ZIZZI ATR085 ATR V308 BILIT (Non-RNAV)
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Camden Bruno on January 18, 2018, 10:57:30 AM
You can also read Boston Virtual ARTCC's Letter to Airmen here (http://www.bvartcc.com/LTA).
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Reynolds Price on January 18, 2018, 12:45:00 PM
thank ya thank ya  8)
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Krikor Hajian on January 19, 2018, 09:32:37 AM
Preferred routes (from above with some additional ones)

DCA-JFK:
DOCTR3 AGARD DONIL V229 PANZE V44 CAMRN (RNAV)
PALEO V44 DONIL V229 PANZE V44 CAMRN (Non-RNAV)
Both AOB 17,000

DCA-BOS:
SOOKI3 SWANN BROSS J42 RBV J222 JFK ROBUC3  (RNAV Jet)
NATNL7 SWANN BROSS J42 RBV J222 JFK ORW7 (Non-RNAV Jet)
PALEO V44 SIE J121 HTO V308 ORW V16 WOONS (Props, AOA FL180)
PALEO V44 SIE V308 ORW V16 WOONS (Props, 090-170)
PALEO V312 GOLDA V268 ENO V16 JFK V229 HFD V3 WOONS (Props, 070)

BOS-DCA:
SSOXS5 SSOXS BUZRD SEY HTO J174 ZIZZI ATR085 ATR V308 LAFLN DEALE3 (RNAV Jet, AOB FL360)
LOGAN2 SSOXS SEY HTO J174 ZIZZI ATR085 ATR V308 BILIT (Non-RNAV Jet)
SSOXS BUZRD SEY HTO J174 ZIZZI ATR085 ATR V308 OTT (Non-Jet, 180-360)
BURDY V268 HTO V308 BILIT CAPKO (Non-Jet, 080-170)

BOS-JFK:
SSOXS5 SSOXS BUZRD SEY PARCH2 (RNAV Jet, AOB FL220)
SSOXS LUCOS SEY067 SEY PARCH CCC ROBER (Non-RNAV Jet, 110-170)
SSOXS LUCOS SEY067 SEY HTO V46 DPK (Prop, 110-170)
BOSOX V1 V14 ORW V16 CCC V46 DPK (Prop, AOB 100)

JFK-DCA:
RBV J230 COPES J75 MXE CLIPR1 (RNAV)
WAVEY EMJAY J174 ZIZZI ATR V308 BILIT CAPKO (Non-RNAV)
Both FL180-220

JFK-BOS:
MERIT ROBUC3 (RNAV Jet, AOB FL210)
MERIT ORW ORW7 (Non-RNAV Jet, AOB FL210)
MERIT ORW WOONS2 (Props)
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Robert Shearman Jr on January 19, 2018, 10:59:38 PM
All of the ATC staff did a crazy-outstanding job tonight.  Everybody was stressed to the gills but worked fast, efficient, and patient.  At one point, Kennedy had TWENTY-SIX aircraft on ground preparing for departures.  I can't imagine hearing "BAW314, clearance on request number 25, stand by..."

The pilots I heard on channel were pretty solid but a lot needed things repeated.  Flying in an event this busy you have to be extra attentive to the radio -- put the phone down and listen!  Save the Facebook surfing for when you're on 122.8 in an empty sky!  LOL.

My favorite moment of the night:

Quote
NY_RBR_APP: DAL2526, don't be afraid now; there's traffic at your 11 o'clock, he is six miles turning northeastbound, a heavy Boeing 747 at 6000.  He is British; no factor.  You can give me a right turn to head (couldn't hear the rest over my own laughter)

I got a nice video of my flight that I'll be posting once I get it cut down to a reasonable size.
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Reynolds Price on January 20, 2018, 12:38:50 AM
To all the controllers from the night:

Good job guys! Boston was a little hectic but either turned out great. Cant wait to see what the next thing yall have planned for us!
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Jeremy Peterson on January 20, 2018, 07:20:19 PM
Here is the preliminary System Review for JFK.

Assumptions, disclaimers, drawbacks, and sources:
The data are very coarse due to the limitations of the VATSIM data update interval (about 2 minutes at best). Furthermore, airborne-based statistics are calculated over a period starting when an aircraft enters N90 (e.g.., crossing CCC at 12000). These times were reasonably estimated through analysis of each flight's position, speed, and altitude profiles. Ground-based times are calculated either from an estimated time of pushback (i.e., a small spike in the aircraft's speed [<5kt] before a period of taxiing and before takeoff) or the start of taxi (i.e., the time when the aircraft's speed is reasonably indicative of taxiing, before takeoff). Small changes in an aircraft's speed can occur erroneously when on the ground so may not indicate when an aircraft is actually pushing back or taxiing. Finally, if there is an aircraft in the list that doesn't have any times associated with it other than a wheels up/wheels down time, then it wasn't found in the vatstats.net database and no reasonable assessment of position, altitude, or speed were made.

With that behind us, let me present some statistics and findings of these data:

Here is the link to my spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B1ABgrQK1EiPfC2vLwVQ4thDzCreTqt8jdJ6lAjP1fQ/edit?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Camden Bruno on January 21, 2018, 11:49:12 PM
Quote from: JEREMY PETERSON on January 20, 2018, 07:20:19 PM
  • BOS: 19 arrivals/30 departures
You're saying BOS only received 19 arrivals throughout the entire event? Or just from JFK? Either way I'd check that - definitely is not correct.
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Jeremy Peterson on January 21, 2018, 11:51:09 PM
Quote from: Camden Bruno on January 21, 2018, 11:49:12 PM
Quote from: JEREMY PETERSON on January 20, 2018, 07:20:19 PM
  • BOS: 19 arrivals/30 departures
You're saying BOS only received 19 arrivals throughout the entire event? Or just from JFK? Either way I'd check that - definitely is not correct.

From JFK. I thought this might be suspect too but those are the stats I got. If ZBW would like to run a review on their end, we could see better what happened.
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Rick Rump on January 22, 2018, 07:15:50 AM
I tracked 101 departures, 92 of them went to BOS/JFK. I would say it was 60/40 JFK, so I have to agree with Cam about those stats maybe being off. Probably issues with servinfo/vatstats or something.
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Jeremy Peterson on January 22, 2018, 08:02:20 AM
Quote from: Rick Rump on January 22, 2018, 07:15:50 AM
I tracked 101 departures, 92 of them went to BOS/JFK. I would say it was 60/40 JFK, so I have to agree with Cam about those stats maybe being off. Probably issues with servinfo/vatstats or something.

You’re both probably right. If VATSIM afforded us better and more frequently updated data, by all means the numbers would look better. I’m only reporting on what I could find post hoc. Thank you both for verifying my suspicions; at the very least, these numbers represent a sample of the actual system “population” during the period and are reflected proportionately.
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Robert Shearman Jr on January 22, 2018, 08:58:49 PM
Quote from: JEREMY PETERSON on January 20, 2018, 07:20:19 PM
Total airborne time ranged from just under 14 minutes to just over 1 hour!
Might that one hour one have been me?  I departed KFRG at 0231z and was probably handed to Philly Approach at around 0330z.  However, I was in a DC3 making about 130 knots over the ground, so... lol.  I don't know if your stats are including only aircraft who arrived into or departed from KJFK, or those who passed through the terminal airspace. 
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Jeremy Peterson on January 22, 2018, 09:27:23 PM
Quote from: Robert Shearman Jr on January 22, 2018, 08:58:49 PM
Quote from: JEREMY PETERSON on January 20, 2018, 07:20:19 PM
Total airborne time ranged from just under 14 minutes to just over 1 hour!
Might that one hour one have been me?  I departed KFRG at 0231z and was probably handed to Philly Approach at around 0330z.  However, I was in a DC3 making about 130 knots over the ground, so... lol.  I don't know if your stats are including only aircraft who arrived into or departed from KJFK, or those who passed through the terminal airspace.

No, JFK departures and arrivals are only captured in these stats.
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Jeremy Peterson on January 23, 2018, 09:01:08 AM
Event period: 19 JAN 2018/2359Z - 20 JAN 2018/0606Z
Total reported KBOS operations (to/from KJFK): 46
(https://image.prntscr.com/image/xNE_nO6ZS7u_SpWPiGbmOw.png)
Source: http://stats.vatsim-germany.org/

Event period: same as above
Total reported KJFK operations (to/from KBOS): 46
(https://image.prntscr.com/image/U3W6rTJ-SaWNcQ26q9csKg.png)
Source: http://stats.vatsim-germany.org/

Seems like a low number but this is what I'm finding. It looks like DCA was the real winner this event with event operations of greater than 60 for JFK and BOS each.
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Mark Hubbert on January 23, 2018, 10:33:37 AM
Quote
All of the ATC staff did a crazy-outstanding job tonight.  Everybody was stressed to the gills but worked fast, efficient, and patient.  At one point, Kennedy had TWENTY-SIX aircraft on ground preparing for departures.  I can't imagine hearing "BAW314, clearance on request number 25, stand by...

I just wanted to say that I agree.  Great event.  I flew KMIA to KJFK.  The ATC was superb from my perspective.  Cool, calm collective and good instructions.  For the most part I thought the pilots done a great job too, not too many walk over somebody on frequency.  I will admit that I contributed to controllers having to repeat, sometimes their communications were muffled sounding to me and I had to clarify but each time, the controller responded professionally, promptly and without attitude.  Excellent Customer Service and a Great Event. 

The only thing this event was lacking was the smell of burned jet fuel.  When I arrived at KJFK, There was a line of planes who needed to taxi to the gate between Rwy's 22R and 22L.  Just like in the real world.
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Rick Rump on January 23, 2018, 10:40:17 AM
Thanks for the extra data there Jeremy, always appreciate it.
Being the "single" runway in the mix, us getting anything out while getting stuff in (or vice versa) at DCA is always a challenge. Our guys in the cab (two of whom were working these positions for the first time in an event) did a stellar job properly sequencing on the ground so we could launch a JFK and BOS departure before being subject to TMU restrictions between another departure to the same airport.

You can always buy some jet fuel and burn it Mark ;) Just don't mistake it for bourbon!
Title: Re: Northeastern Corridor 2018 [19JAN 2359-0500z]
Post by: Mark Hubbert on January 23, 2018, 11:28:37 AM
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You can always buy some jet fuel and burn it Mark ;) Just don't mistake it for bourbon!


Lol, I would never mistake Jet fuel  good bourbon.  But again the event from my perspective went very well.  I truly appreciate the camaraderie and mutual cooperation between facilities, it truly makes a difference for the pilots who are flying and I can only hope that the pilots who came out made a positive difference in the experience for the controllers.