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General => Events => Topic started by: Brett Jones on November 04, 2018, 06:33:36 pm

Title: Gateway to Winter FNO
Post by: Brett Jones on November 04, 2018, 06:33:36 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/klWwNm2.png)

Join ZKC for our last FNO of the year at St. Louis (KSTL).  A pilot briefing will be available closer to the event date.

Here are a few reminders to consider prior to flying this event:


Scenery is available for St. Louis and is highly recommended.
Freeware: https://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?DLID=202433
Payware: https://secure.simmarket.com/taxi2gate-st.-louis-international-airport-kstl-fsx.phtml

ZKC looks forward to seeing you!
Title: Re: Gateway to Winter FNO
Post by: Brett Jones on November 29, 2018, 04:17:43 am
Pilot Briefing is now available.

Users who own T2G KSTL and FSDT GSXv2 can update their scenery to add SODE Jetways!

Link: https://www.inibuilds.com/s/iniB-KSTL-GSX-Profile.zip

ZKC looks forward to seeing everyone on December 7th!
Title: Re: Gateway to Winter FNO
Post by: Kyle Kaestner on December 06, 2018, 09:16:26 am
Updated Pilot Brief can be viewed Here (http://goo.gl/1diBnW).

Remember to have updated scenery for runway 11/29. ZKC hopes to see you in the skies tomorrow.
Title: Re: Gateway to Winter FNO
Post by: Joseph Pentz on December 07, 2018, 01:20:13 pm
Any Issue with VFR Traffic? Pattern or practice maneuvers in the Bravo?
Title: Re: Gateway to Winter FNO
Post by: Brett Jones on December 07, 2018, 01:31:12 pm
Any Issue with VFR Traffic? Pattern or practice maneuvers in the Bravo?

Due to the amount of traffic expected for FNO, VFR traffic can expect heavy delays, and pattern work is not recommended at STL. As a controller yourself you should know the answer to this question already..
Title: Re: Gateway to Winter FNO
Post by: Ryan Pitt on December 07, 2018, 01:34:54 pm
Highly unlikely due to the traffic load in the event. Maybe if you get there early around the start time you can, but definitely not past an hour in.
Title: Re: Gateway to Winter FNO
Post by: Matthew Kosmoski on December 07, 2018, 01:37:50 pm
Any Issue with VFR Traffic? Pattern or practice maneuvers in the Bravo?

I can't speak for ZKC, but I can speak generally:

If it's permitted on network (which it is), it'll be permitted during events.  We don't get to redefine VATSIM for an event.  Be courteous, though.  Transiting or departing/arriving?  Have at it.  Pattern work?  Would you really want to do that there, anyways?  Wanting to maneuver inside?  They'll get busy, and you may be operationally restricted to the point where it won't be fun to be there for you or them.

It may just be easier and friendly to sit just underneath the shelf.  You can watch the lines of airplanes from there without any of the complications.  If you do this, just remember to actually remain clear of airspace or you may find yourself on the wrong side of a wallop.
Title: Re: Gateway to Winter FNO
Post by: Joseph Pentz on December 07, 2018, 01:54:34 pm
Any Issue with VFR Traffic? Pattern or practice maneuvers in the Bravo?

Due to the amount of traffic expected for FNO, VFR traffic can expect heavy delays, and pattern work is not recommended at STL. As a controller yourself you should know the answer to this question already..

Of course I know the answer - Perhaps there are pilots who are not controllers who do not realize there are significant delays and I wanted to ask the question so they didn't feel stupid. No need to use harsh language to make a point. The coordination of dealing with VFR Traffic does not take priority over IFR but if the facility can handle it, it will attempt to provide that to VFR Pilots. Pattern work is understandably hard to accomodate as sequencing would be a nightmare.

To all pilots who didn't know this now you do :)