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« on: November 27, 2011, 10:45:00 AM »
Okay you guys aren't even understanding the point of this.
[!--quoteo--][div class=\\\'quotetop\\\']QUOTE [/div][div class=\\\'quotemain\\\'][!--quotec--]I'm also going to suggest you contact Tom Seeley or Gary to clarify your points. In any organization, professional or volunteer, you'd be pretty heavily reprimanded for posting the exact copies of test questions and answers in a public forum to begin with.[/quote]
First of all I listed all the answers and only notated the one that was wrong. Never said which one was right so the next guy now has a 2/3 chances of getting it wrong too.
I am not saying that 7110.65 should not be read. If you feel like you want to read it then fine that's your prerogative. I might actually read it at some point but what I am trying to say is yes VATUSA probably gathers its information from the 7110.65 and probably some other ATC sources but to quote Skylar
[!--quoteo--][div class=\\\'quotetop\\\']QUOTE [/div][div class=\\\'quotemain\\\'][!--quotec--]My issue with utilizing the 7110.65 for answering questions is most of the tests are outdated to the point where I was bit in the butt by following the 7110.65 (albeit it was notated in the VATUSA training, but I was treating it as the 7110.65 was more accurate, therefore it was right).[/quote]
The 7110.65 is updated more often obviously because it pertains to real life situations where making sure everything is done correctly is of vital importance. But in addition to this I am sure the 7110.65 is a wealth of knowledge that just cannot be copy and pasted into a training material environment such as the one here.
My point to make is that the wording of the questions above and the questions themselves should really only be focused on how the positions work on VATSIM. For example the Approach Controller Primary Function: On VATSIM the APP controller also controls Departure and that is how it is taught in my ARTCC from what I hear almost every other ARTCC. So when I come into a test with practical training and experience on the APP controller position and see the word Approach Controller it is obvious to assume that the APP controller is controlling both positions because well VATUSA is a VATSIM controller training environment and none of this training should be used for real life controller training as the disclaimer states.
When there are questions on the test that pertain more to real life operations next to questions that pertain more to the VATSIM environment it can be misleading.
I would think that VATUSA cannot assume that everyone will read the 7110.65 or even have knowledge of it for that matter. So in the same light I would naturally think that even though the training material may be based of the 7110.65 in some form or another that the test questions would only pertain to the material found on the VATUSA site. Most of the questions do yes however some don't and as Skylar said going to the 7110.65 for help on answers could end up making me select the wrong answer anyway.
My point isn't to say that the 7110.65 is worthless its just to say that the wording of the questions can be confusing and cause one to answer incorrectly. Which I admit can be test taker error in many and probably most cases.