Folks, before this devolves any further....  We are on the same team, working toward the same goal -- have fun enjoying a hobby that helps others have fun enjoying our hobby.  

I think we can all agree that, as a simulation, we are attempting to simulate the real world as much as practical, given boundaries and limitations of our network, traffic, volunteer nature, etc.  I think we can all agree that emulating a reasonable amount of realism, while giving reasonable flexibility and allowances for the various VATSIMisms, is a good and smart thing to do.  Yes, it's gray.  Yes, it's squishy.  Yes, it's a matter of interpretation, and your mileage may vary based on the leadership/culture in place at each ARTCC.  But the key is to attempt to emulate the real world, within reason, and yet keep it fun and inviting for people to want to participate.  It's like walking on a razor blade, and the line is blurry.  

That said, let's do the best we can to work TOGETHER to be reasonable, respectful and have fun.

In that spirit...

Alex asked for ideas so here goes:

I've been going through the ZLA tests and that's exactly what I'd want to see.  I'd like to have the criteria posted for each rating so I can practice offline, then engage an instructor for a practical test and signoff when complete.  The ZLA tests are perfect (in mind opinion) and easy to understand.

As far as a "side by side" type of option, I don't see the value in that.  If you're the kind of person that wants to get a rating, odds are you already know the basics of flying online.  The current VATSIM pilot ratings are listed with criteria so it seems like the first part is fine.  I guess what I'd have to ask for is a "step by step" like is done for controller ratings.

Ratings should be taught in standard FSX/X-Plane aircraft, like P1 in the C172.  Airliner ops need different pilot ratings because the "rules" are different.  The C172 can teach everyone the basics of aviate, navigate, communicate at a pace easy for new users.  Old-timers will breeze through the simple stuff and move straight to commercial ratings quickly.

Finally, ratings only mean something if there's a stick with the carrot.  It's not like anyone would be prevented from flying on VATSIM if they don't have the rating(s) so it's just bragging rights.  VATSIM policy would have to change in order to motivate people to get the cert in the first place.  If the rating is used to exclue/include pilots from VAs then it seems like it's a different training entirely.

Hope this all made sense.

To those who come after me:

I made a dumb mistake on my basic test and will now wait my 7 days, learning my lesson.  Study!

I thought I knew, but even with a cursory glance of the material, I wasn't prepared. I took it closed book but glad I did. Won't take another without doing the homework.

Steve