To fly a route or not to fly a route... That is the question.

Brin Brody

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VATUSA Pilots,

As of late, I have noticed that pilots will, quite frequently, either file or accept routes that they are unable to fly.  While it is common practice for controllers to assign preferred routes to pilots, it is the responsibility of the pilot to determine whether or not they can accept it.  Similarly, software such as simbrief or skyvector provides recommended routeings to pilots.  If you are unable to fly the route provided by this software, please do not file it, and instead, find a route that you are able to fly.  If a controller tries to assign you a route you can't fly, don't be afraid to use the word "unable".  Making this changes before you get off the ground makes it easier for both you and controllers further down the line.

Thanks.
Brin Brody
Deputy Air Traffic Manager
Jacksonville ARTCC
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Matthew Kosmoski

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Re: To fly a route or not to fly a route... That is the question.
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2017, 09:16:05 pm »
VATUSA Pilots,

As of late, I have noticed that pilots will, quite frequently, either file or accept routes that they are unable to fly.  While it is common practice for controllers to assign preferred routes to pilots, it is the responsibility of the pilot to determine whether or not they can accept it.  Similarly, software such as simbrief or skyvector provides recommended routeings to pilots.  If you are unable to fly the route provided by this software, please do not file it, and instead, find a route that you are able to fly.  If a controller tries to assign you a route you can't fly, don't be afraid to use the word "unable".  Making this changes before you get off the ground makes it easier for both you and controllers further down the line.

Thanks.

It'd be helpful to controllers if the pilots correctly filed their equipment suffix.  If you're assigned an RNAV route/procedure and you're /A, remind the controller you're /A and unable.  If you're unable to fly a SID or STAR, do like we do real-world -- a remark on the flight plan that says "NO SID," "NO STAR," or "NO SID/STAR."

You should never take anything you can't fly.  You can't get mad at a controller if you accept something offered.  Don't get offended if somebody notices you're not flying something correctly, either.
Matthew Kosmoski
Air Traffic Manager | ZHU ARTCC
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Jonathan Voss

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Re: To fly a route or not to fly a route... That is the question.
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2017, 09:25:43 pm »
Conversely from the pilot side, be sure to understand how the procedure works if you are going to authorize it.

For example, know when procedure turns, course reversals, etc are required/not authorized and what the pilot is going to have to do based on how you clear them for the approach.
Jonathan Voss (JV)
Houston ARTCC

Mark Hubbert

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Re: To fly a route or not to fly a route... That is the question.
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2017, 12:53:44 pm »
I think in many cases guys are filing routes without truly knowing that they cannot fly the route or that the aircraft they are flying does not have an FMC capable of.  Frustrating to the controllers I understand.  Hence the importance of recommending the pilot for training through an ATO.
Mark Hubbert
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Alexander Iannuzzi

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Re: To fly a route or not to fly a route... That is the question.
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2017, 06:55:30 pm »
Here are some helpful links that would greatly benefit pilots and save controllers from having to re-route after the plane is airborne. 

https://www.vatsim.net/pilot-resource-centre/general-lessons/choosing-equipment-code

https://www.vatsim.net/pilot-resource-centre/general-lessons/vfr-or-ifr

https://www.vatsim.net/pilots/file-flightplan

This would definitely improve pilot efficiency on the network if all pilots just took ten minutes to read this stuff. 
Alexander Iannuzzi
I1-Atlanta Center ARTCC
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