E/G floors at 14,500...

Robert Shearman Jr

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E/G floors at 14,500...
« on: April 01, 2018, 02:26:49 PM »
Hey, all -- I was doing a P4 review session with a VATSTAR student this morning and was trying to show him an example of where the Class E / Class G border is 14,500 rather than the standard 1,200.  I know there were many such areas in the Central and Mountain time zones.  An example we use in our lesson material is just west of KABR in South Dakota.  But SkyVector doesn't seem to show them anymore and I can't find any at all in the lower 48.  I did see that there are still a bunch in Alaska (that I then used to show the student), but, that was it.  Any idea whether and when this changed, and, are there any remaining such areas still in the contiguous States?

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Re: E/G floors at 14,500...
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2018, 02:32:38 PM »
There are a few scattered around in ZLA, mainly near the R-2508 and Yuma areas.

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Re: E/G floors at 14,500...
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2018, 04:15:54 PM »
They're few and far between now.  I seem to recall one or two still around in the rockies, but I generally use AK as an example since they're quite easy to find.

Re: E/G floors at 14,500...
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2018, 04:33:09 PM »
And even in AK their numbers are diminishing.  A good chunk of them are in near GKN.