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The Flight Deck / Newbie Pilot Questions
« on: October 24, 2011, 09:14:23 AM »
Thanks to everyone that's tried to help.  

I have read what I can find about the differences between VATSIM and real life, so I'm fairly familiar with most of those differences, including VATSIM procedures used when a controller isn't online (see my first post).

I asked my second question because the tower wouldn't normally have control over the entire class B, so as a VFR aircraft entering the class B it wasn't obvious to me either from real-life or VATSIM's procedures that I should contact the tower for permission to enter, when center and approach were both offline at the time.  Of course, that left the problem of when to contact the tower at all, so it makes sense that the tower should control the entire class B on VATSIM under these conditions, but I was wondering if it was normal procedure or not, because that would be contrary to the top-down heirarchy VATSIM usually uses.

Steve



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The Flight Deck / Newbie Pilot Questions
« on: October 21, 2011, 03:48:28 PM »
Quote from: Don Desfosse
Welcome to VATSIM!

Yes, you've figured out the top-down methodology perfectly.  You can always ask up, never down.  Yes to all of your questions.

Is it normal on VATSIM for the tower at the primary airport in class B airspace to have arriving VFR aircraft contact them for a clearance into the airspace, kinda like if it were class D?  I had a tower controller ask me to do that that yesterday.  It's more fun that way, but was unexpected.  At the time, neither approach nor center were online and I didn't think the tower would have jurisdiction over the class B.

Steve

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The Flight Deck / Newbie Pilot Questions
« on: October 17, 2011, 03:59:19 PM »
Quote from: Don Desfosse
Welcome to VATSIM!

Yes, you've figured out the top-down methodology perfectly.  You can always ask up, never down.  Yes to all of your questions.

Thanks Don.  

I guess that means that en-route controllers can get pretty busy, if they are the only ones online and have to act as clearance delivery, ground and tower positions for all the unstaffed airports in their area.

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The Flight Deck / Newbie Pilot Questions
« on: October 17, 2011, 01:40:36 PM »
Hello VATSIMers,

I know that on VATSIM, if a controller isn't available, one should take the request up a level, but I wonder if someone could clarify a couple of scenarios for me.

For example, in the case where there's a tower controller at the primary airport inside class B airspace and center is online too, but no APP/DEP controller.  I assume I contact center for a clearance into the class B if I'm VFR?  

If I'm approaching a class D airfield with no tower and I'm VFR again, would I contact center to get permission into the D?

If I'm sitting at an airport inside class C airspace, do I contact center for clearance, taxi etc, even if VFR again?

So far, I'm really enjoying VATSIM.  It's a huge improvement over practicing approaches etc with the AI ATC.

PS I know that I could file IFR and get all the clearance I needed, but what's the fun in that?

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