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Messages - Bruce Clingan

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NOTAMs / New ZID ATM appointed
« on: May 20, 2012, 10:09:04 AM »
Good Luck Gerry, I couldn't ask for a better replacement, and you certainly leave me with no worries that ZID is in good hands.

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General Discussion / C3 Rating
« on: December 02, 2011, 02:33:40 PM »
I know Bryan.  My statement was really pointed at the idea that you can't get a good picture by saying that VATSIM has bad retention because all of the older controllers from one ARTCC have left.

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General Discussion / C3 Rating
« on: December 02, 2011, 08:24:36 AM »
Just because the raw numbers may not now give us an accurate picture doesn't mean that they can't.  More information would be necessary though.

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General Discussion / C3 Rating
« on: December 01, 2011, 10:48:34 PM »
Page two of this reads like an Intro to Sociological Study course I teach.  We can't look at our personal experiences and expect to get a clear picture of what is happening with a large population.

A vast majority of my closest VATSIM friends are not active on the network.  That doesn't mean that the network is failing.  It simply means that they were involved in a situation under certain leadership that changed their opinion of VATSIM forever.

Even Brian's stats really don't give us a clear statistical picture of overall retention on the network.

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General Discussion / Proof that the VATUSA exam questions are misleading
« on: November 27, 2011, 11:07:29 AM »
Quote from: Isak Moebius
First of all I listed all the answers and only notated the one that was wrong. Never said which one was right so the next guy now has a 2/3 chances of getting it wrong too.

Isak - I won't assume your age but I will assume that at some point you have been exposed to the high school or college education level.  Do you think that if you posted this material in conjunction with a course you were taking in school that it would be acceptable?  It is unprofessional at best.  If we wanted the questions published we would publish them so that those taking them could see it.  

The reality is that regardless of whether the questions are misleading the answers that you chose are incorrect.  They aren't even supported necessarily in the VATUSA training material.

You are not going to get away from the 7110 guys.  It is what was used to create the training material in the first place, and I guarantee that if you got an answer wrong because you followed the information in the 7110 that this would be a completely different conversation.  You may not ever want to be a real world controller, neither do I, but this is where we get the information that we need to control.  Most facilities procedures are written almost word for word like that of their real world counterparts.  This is a simulation, that is what makes it enjoyable to most of us.  Trust me though there is such a thing as too realistic and I think we do a good job balancing this.  When I got on this network there were some facilities that the minimum time to get promoted to C1 was nearly 2 years because you essentially had to have the 7110 memorized like a real world controller.  We are a long way from that.  

I would say that if you can show your instructor or TA why the answers you chose were correct that they would be happy to fight for your test to be changed.  I actually had this happen to me on my S3 test.  But I went through my instructor and TA.

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General Discussion / Proof that the VATUSA exam questions are misleading
« on: November 26, 2011, 08:43:23 PM »
So what I am getting here is that those of us "staff" members in this hobby should read and understand the .65 and re-write all of the important parts onto a VATSIM related website so that it is easier to look up the answers.

If you are stumped on a question search for the topic in the .65.  There are some more detailed instructions for this in the manual for your web browser or PDF viewer but for the most part the function is found under the edit menu and labeled "find".  Click it and type in the subject to be guided to its appearance in the document.

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Simple Insanity / Typical, typical...
« on: November 24, 2011, 12:45:47 PM »
In the absence of a like button Tom, I will simply say LIKE!!

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General Discussion / C3 Rating
« on: November 24, 2011, 12:44:27 PM »
The key word Kevin is "may".  It is the divisions decision whether or not to award it, and as a division the leadership has chosen not to award it.  It is not fair to everyone to have a subjective award of a rating, and it de-values the idea of the rating if there was a reason for awarding it later on.

I know someone who under a previous DD became a staff member for an ARTCC, requested that the DD make him a C3, got his rating and left.  He has not been an active member of the ARTCC since.  This is exactly what I think the division is trying to avoid.

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General Discussion / Thank You Bruce Clingan
« on: November 10, 2011, 08:20:59 AM »
Thanks everyone for all the good wishes, but it appears many of you were rather persuasive in your individual messages to me.  I am going to stay aboard for a little bit longer.


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The Control Room Floor / WHERE ARE THE VIDEOS?
« on: September 17, 2011, 03:09:04 PM »
I actually contacted UND also prior to using their videos on our site and they gave me free reign to do as I pleased as long as they were given credit.  I think that it took me about 5 minutes to secure these rights.

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General Discussion / Exams/Training for ATC/VATUSA
« on: February 22, 2011, 03:35:05 PM »
Hi Amanda,

You are all set up on our roster at ZID.  You should have received some welcome emails, if not please let me know.

Welcome Aboard

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General Discussion / ZMP's 168 Hour Push
« on: January 25, 2011, 08:41:55 AM »
Great job what an accomplishment!

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General Discussion / Where's Management?
« on: January 12, 2011, 02:19:16 AM »
I would like to note, and I think this was the direction of a poster prior to me, I was in no way referring to vatusa staff.

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General Discussion / Where's Management?
« on: January 11, 2011, 12:11:25 PM »
Should staff members at higher levels be held to a different standard than staff members at lower levels?  It's been made clear that the BOG and such have been researching and taking action against ARTCC level staff who don't respond expediently to training requests and such.  What about when senior staff don't respond to emails, update documents or drop the ball?

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The Control Room Floor / ZME NOW HIRING
« on: December 09, 2010, 10:24:20 AM »
I hope I don't regret this but vZID will offer double the pay as Memphis!  

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