[10 APR 2020, 23Z - 03Z] Springtime in Philadelphia FNO

[Jeremy Peterson]

Fly into Philadelphia International Airport during our FNO! Monitor this post as well as other platforms for routing, coordination, and other notices leading up to the event!

[Jeremy Peterson]

Reference PHL FNO, ZNY will be doing a few things differently than past FNOs:

• PHL remains the event airport and you're encouraged to fly in!
• EWR (Newark Liberty) will be staffed to accommodate diversions. It will be the first choice alternate for ZNY.
• MDT (Harrisburg International) will be the second alternate diversion airport with staffing to support diversions.
• ABE (Allentown) will be the third alternate diversion airport to be staffed for diversions.
• Note: JFK diversions will be given lowest priority for diversions due to staffing and demand balancing.
• If you want to divert to an airport other than those three, you WILL be subject to additional delay (the time it takes to coordinate, notify, and approve your change of destination).
• In order to be given expeditious priority after diverting, "DVRSN" must be present in the flight plan remarks. Note: if there is a ground stop, ground delay program, or AFP in effect, "DVRSN" recovery flights are not automatically exempt and may receive an EDCT.

Stay tuned for more updates and see ya on the scopes!

[Nolan Danziger]

Only one attempt at a landing? I love everything you guys do in terms of event planning but there's too many variables to make that a hard and fast rule...

[Jeremy Peterson]

Only one attempt at a landing? I love everything you guys do in terms of event planning but there's too many variables to make that a hard and fast rule...

The idea is that we say it's what we're gonna do on paper but adapt it during the operational phase (and obviously abide by VATSIM policy).

[Dhruv Kalra]

Pilots will have exactly one (1) opportunity to land. If the pilot goes around, they must divert unless one of the following conditions exists:

Pretty sure you can't do this in any way, shape, or form.

[Derek Hood]

Only one attempt at a landing? I love everything you guys do in terms of event planning but there's too many variables to make that a hard and fast rule...

The idea is that we say it's what we're gonna do on paper but adapt it during the operational phase (and obviously abide by VATSIM policy).

Then why have this even written out?  So if the controller messes up we have to divert? 

[Matthew Bartels]

• Pilots will have exactly one (1) opportunity to land. If the pilot goes around, they must divert unless one of the following conditions exists:
  

This is something that  absolutely CAN NOT be done on VATSIM. Please remove this language from this post. We expect that ZNY will be accommodating and allow additional approaches for aircraft that may have to go around.

[Jeremy Peterson]

• Pilots will have exactly one (1) opportunity to land. If the pilot goes around, they must divert unless one of the following conditions exists:
  

This is something that  absolutely CAN NOT be done on VATSIM. Please remove this language from this post. We expect that ZNY will be accommodating and allow additional approaches for aircraft that may have to go around.

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[Robert Shearman Jr]

It was done for WorldFlight coming into DCA this past November, but, that was (as far as I understood it) a condition that was proposed and agreed to BY the WorldFlight participants, not imposed on them by ZDC or any VATUSA entity.

I'm no authority; I'm just stating to add some context, in case that WorldFlight example was on any of the ZNY staff's mind when devising the idea.

[Mike Cinnante]

Pilots should have an alternate planned just in case. Winds look like they do favor a high go around rate tomorrow. Load up them fuel tanks.

[Nolan Danziger]

You’re a braver man than I if you don’t bring fuel for an alternate and extra hold to an FNO, regardless of location

[James Anthony]

Pilots should have an alternate planned just in case. Winds look like they do favor a high go around rate tomorrow. Load up them fuel tanks.

Runway 35 is useful in bad winds!

[Mike Cinnante]

Runway 35 is useful in bad winds!

35 Would be worse with the crosswind tonight actually...

[Danny Moore]

What a mess. DC Center on 133.72 couldn't even except traffic from Indy Center. Five planes had to diverted and two just disconnected because they got tired of holding for over an hour. They could except traffic from Atlanta however during my time holding as I watched planes cross over from Atlanta sectors. Indy Center had to keep apologizing to everyone.  https://prntscr.com/rx3b1w

[Odinn Tor]

Well I can't really do much when Indy tries to hand me 6 people all within 20 miles when I told him that I needed 40 MIT and then he tried to drop one guy and switch him to me because I couldn't take his handoff. I also had 5-8 people in the hold at GVE so I couldn't take more people in that hold so Indy offered to hold them for me. We could take the ATL guys because we can switch them between the GVE and FAK transition and there was another controller covering the FAK transition on the PATTS arrival.